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    Default Yahoo is Just Ticking Me Off

    I believe that they have their own form of Sandbox for new sites. Our new sites bounce in and out of the top 15, while our existing sites are rock solid in their top positions.

    We have been able to verify this, albeit on a very limited basis. In one case, we have a new site and older site competing for the same keyword.

    OK - I vented. I feel much better now.

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    Vent away!

    This might be something no one else has noticed yet, and there very well might be something to this.

    IMO, a sandbox is a very good thing. Sure it sucks when I'm building a new site, but it does keep the brand new site scam artists numbers down a little. How bad would it be if one could put up a new site, place in top five on all SE's nad rip off everyone's money and then close up shop?
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    I have mixed feelings about the Sandbox Effect.

    If you build a brick and mortar business, would it be fair if your town forced you to board up your windows and prevented you from using any signage?

    Until the SE's get better at immediately filtering out spam, I guess this is what we have to live with.

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    Quote Originally Posted by HHI Golf Guy
    I believe that they have their own form of Sandbox for new sites. Our new sites bounce in and out of the top 15, while our existing sites are rock solid in their top positions.

    We have been able to verify this, albeit on a very limited basis. In one case, we have a new site and older site competing for the same keyword.

    OK - I vented. I feel much better now.
    I have noticed this also with one of my sites, but it seems to be stablizing now.
    It is considered wise to stand on the shoulders of giants but foolish to put yourself in front of them.

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    HHI, good thing you have these forums because you do an awful lot of venting, lol.

    Maybe a little off the topic but is Yahoo still notorious for taking forever to index new sites?
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    Quote Originally Posted by HMiller
    HHI, good thing you have these forums because you do an awful lot of venting, lol.
    It keeps me from going postal Besides, I think that sharing opinions is a great way to broaden one's thinking.

    Maybe a little off the topic but is Yahoo still notorious for taking forever to index new sites?
    They are still very slow. My thought is that it may be some sort of Sandbox, or they are trying to "encourage" people to use their PPC and Site Match (rip-off PPC) services.

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    I agree with Jonatanm,

    Yahoo is hardly even worth worrying about considering they get a tiny fraction as much traffic as Google.

    Regardless, just continue building links & your site will stabilize. (If you really want to see movement of the needle (and verify when you're in & out of the sandbox), throw up a post optimized for a long-tail phrase - like a post about a neighborhood in your city, and throw links at it.

    For those longer tail phrases, with the right linking structure, it'll be near-impossible not to rank on the 1st page of Google, and it's easy to see when your link-profile has stabilized your rankings.

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    Quote Originally Posted by joelrunner View Post
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    Yahoo is hardly even worth worrying about considering they get a tiny fraction as much traffic as Google...
    Exactly, and with that index speed... I mean really, even snails are faster than them.

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