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    Can anyone provide some solid info on the differnces between the algo's for yahoo and G. I started optimizing my site not targeting a specific engine; however, the results are now forcing me to consider this.

    I do very well for a young domain in Yahoo and starting to gain ground in MSN, but google shows no love. I have the same basic strategy as every newbie, go get links from directories and related sites(no recips) and build as much content as i can.

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    If you have a new domain it will take between 9-14 months to rank well for competitive terms on Google - if the on-page and off-page optimization is correct on your site.

    Google has taken great pains to prevent spammers from turning and burning domains. So not only do you need quality, inbound links to your site, but these links must also "age" a bit before they become trusted links.

    If you want to get to the top of Google quickly you will need to invest in PPC. There's no other way around it for new sites if you are targeting popular keyphrases.

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    That makes a lot of sense. I believe google is the most popular search engine. However, Yahoo and MSN are all right, but you can go higher in the rankings faster.
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    yikes - i took off a couple weeks from seo and my site has dropped like a rock in yahoo. Is fresh links and content that important to yahoo or could it be something else.

    Over the past 6 months or so i was steadily climbing and got up to 5 for an internal page i was optimizing. Today 40 something, whats the deal?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas-kid
    yikes - i took off a couple weeks from seo and my site has dropped like a rock in yahoo. Is fresh links and content that important to yahoo or could it be something else.

    Over the past 6 months or so i was steadily climbing and got up to 5 for an internal page i was optimizing. Today 40 something, whats the deal?
    Tim Mayer at Yahoo recently confirmed that they began an algorithm update on Monday, and expect that it will be concluded by Wednesday. However, we all know that most algo changes roll out, roll back, then move forward with a different variation of the original.

    My advice is to site tight until there is an official posting on the Yahoo Search Blog that announces the algo change has been completed.

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    Wow - Thats crazy timing for a major algo change with the holiday season upon us. That could make or break some peoples businesses for the entire year.

    I guess yahoo isnt concerned with that nor should they be. There job is to produce the most relevant results and if thier schedule says do it now then so be it.

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas-kid
    Wow - Thats crazy timing for a major algo change with the holiday season upon us. That could make or break some peoples businesses for the entire year.

    I guess yahoo isnt concerned with that nor should they be. There job is to produce the most relevant results and if thier schedule says do it now then so be it.

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    For the past 3-4 years Google has had a major algorithm change or tweak just as the Christmas shopping season begins. Does anyone else remember the infamous Florida update?

    I seem to remember Yahoo making a major algo update around December 15, 2005.

    This winter season - so far - Google hasn't made any major changes changes.

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    Default even worse today

    looks like the new algo outs a ton of wieght on the domain name. maybe it's just my market, you guys seeing the same thing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by vegas-kid
    looks like the new algo outs a ton of wieght on the domain name. maybe it's just my market, you guys seeing the same thing?
    I think it's still too early to draw any conclusions. I'm still seeing a ton of volatility in the SERP's. Right now there's a lot of junk showing up in the Top 10 for many searches.

    When I say "junk", I don't mean spam sites. What I mean is that the relevance of the results should be better. For example, when I search "city name + real estate" I expect to see agent sites, not real estate schools or some of the other off-point sites I am seeing.

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