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    shangan is offline Renter
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    Default Loan Assumption Denied; Earnest Money Cannot Be Returned to Me?

    Hello All

    I have an interesting situtaion that I would definitely appreciate some feedback on, so thank you in advance for reading my novel of a story, haha. I've been having the hardest time finding answers anywhere else.

    I was looking to buy a home in North Carolina, and I had two pre-approvals from different banks so I could start searching for a home. I finally had made a choice on a home, and surprisingly this was actually a loan assumption. It seemed like a great deal to me. The owners already had 10 years paid on the loan, I didn't have to make a down payment or pay steep closing costs, and the process itself just seemed much easier. I only had to pay $500 as earnest money. However, I was denied the loan assumption. According to the underwriter, my debt to income ratio was too high for their particular bank. Even though I had already received pre-approvals from other banks, they didn't take that into consideration and just told me that they're a lot more strict.

    I told my realtor, who then began to get angry, and contacted the underwriter to see if there was anything I could do to get this approved. After it was apparant that I definitely couldn't do the assumption, my realtor went ahead and contacted one of the banks I got my pre-approval from (and contacted the sellers to let them know the change in plans), so I could buy the house with a new loan. I never agreed to that. Here's where everything begins to fall apart.

    I emailed my realtor only a day or two after my assumption was denied and told him I was no longer interested in this property. I made it very clear in my email that I did NOT want to pursue going the route of obtaining a new loan. I signed a contract to ASSUME the loan, and since their bank would not approve me, I no longer wanted to purchase that property because I was DENIED. After that email I did not receive a response from my realtor. After not hearing from him, I figured it was a done deal. About a week later I receive a phone call from him, but I was unable to answer, and unfortunately I had forgotten to call him back. A week after the phone call that I missed, he called me again. He was very upset with me, saying I was not cooperating, and told me that he had some people for me to contact about purchasing the home with a new loan. I told him over the phone that I didn't want to go through with it. I was surprised he didn't already know from the email I sent him. During the phone call I did not mention the email I sent him a couple weeks ago. Ugh, I wish I had.

    My realtor told me that since I waited too long contact him about the fact that I no longer wanted to go through with this purchase, that I could not get my $500 back. He said that according to due diligence laws that legally I was unable to get my $500. The sellers were the ones who got to keep my earnest money. This is where I get extremely confused. I signed a contract to assume the loan. In my contract, $0 is written next to the due diligence fee, and $500 is written next to the earnest money. I thought that the earnest money should have been given back to me. I was ready to close on that house. I wanted it, but their bank would not approve me. How is it that the sellers get to keep my money? My realtor kept mentioning the time frame in which I told him that I did not want to purchase the home any more. He stated that since I waited too long to let anyone know, that I could not keep the money. The email I sent him though, was only a couple days after I found out the assumption was denied. (I have mentioned this email to him now, and gave him the exact date I sent it. Now he changed his story saying that because the loan assumption was denied AFTER the due diligence time frame, that I was unable to get my earnest money returned to me.)

    This actually all took place back in May this year, and this is STILL an issue. My realtor keeps calling me to sign some paperwork, but by signing, I'm thinking that means I agree to give up my $500. I refuse to sign something that I do not agree to.

    Here is something my realtor emailed me that might explain this a little better:
    "Unfortunately, and to everyone's surpise, the bank declined your request to assume the present mortgage on the property after the due diligence period. Therefore all the monies are released to the seller for taking the home off the market during the due diligence period."

    My main questions are:

    1. Is my realtor correct when he says that due diligence money comes into play with earnest money?
    2. Am I obligated to sign any paperwork at this point?
    3. What would my next step be in getting my $500 back (if, in fact, my realtor is wrong in this case)?

    I'm really just looking for a second opinion to see if indeed my realtor is right. If this is the law, then it is very upsetting to me that not only did I not get to purchase the house because a bank denied me, but I also don't get the money back that I put down towards the home.

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    Greg is offline Moderator
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    If you backed out of the contract after the due diligence period you lose your earnest money. The time frame is very important here and relies solely on the dates in the contract.

    You did not mention any time frames but it is customary around here to give a buyer 45 days for the due diligence period so they have time to get a loan.

    The brokerage who is holding the earnest money can not release the earnest money to you or the seller without both signatures on the release form. If both signatures can not be obtained then the brokerage with the earnest money turns the money over to the county clerk of court.

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    shangan is offline Renter
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    Quote Originally Posted by Greg View Post
    You did not mention any time frames but it is customary around here to give a buyer 45 days for the due diligence period so they have time to get a loan.


    Thanks for the response Greg. Over the past couple of weeks I've been getting all of my details together to figure out some more specific time frames to see if this makes a difference in my situation.

    5/1/11 Created a contract. Closing date set for 5/25. Pend for seller's acceptance.
    5/2/11 Gave my realtor a $500 money order. My realtor informed me that the sellers accepted my offer.
    5/11/11 Received a package from the bank with the loan assumption paperwork for me to fill out.
    5/17/11 I returned the loan assumption paperwork via overnight mail with all of my information back to the bank.
    5/24/11 Received a phone call from the underwriter with the bank. She informed me they could not approve the assumption.
    5/25/11 Closing could not occur. During a phone call with my realtor, he let me know that he told the sellers that things were going to go in another direction, but that everything was going to be fine. I thought he was working with the underwriter to approve the assumption.
    5/26/11 I learned that my realtor was referring to having me establish a new loan, and not going the route of the assumption in which the contract was written up for. That's not what I wanted to do for this house.
    5/27/11 My realtor left me a voicemail and emailed me asking me to call him. I had no way of contacting him via phone that day at work, so I emailed him. In part of the email I stated, "After creating a contract agreeing to the terms to do an assumption instead of a new loan, that's what I had prepared myself for, and I do not want to establish a new 30 year mortgage for this house. I do not want to continue with the closing of the home since the loan cannot be assumed through the sellers bank." No response from my realtor.
    6/1/11 My realtor left me a voicemail asking me to give him a call. I called him back telling him exactly what I said in the email, unfortunately I did not mention the email itself.

    This is what my realtor sent to me in an email a few weeks ago, "The due diligence period does not come into play with just the upfront due diligence money that would be made payable to the owner ( which we did not offer them nor did they ask for it) , but the due diligence period comes into play with the earnest money also. Unfortunately, and to everyone's surprise, PNC declined your request to assume the present mortgage on the property after the due diligence period. Therefore all monies are released to the seller for taking the home off the market during the due diligence period."

    I'm just having a hard time understanding how this can be possible. It seems so simple to me. I signed a contract specifically for assumption. The assumption was denied by the bank. The sellers and I made no kind of agreement to do anything other than the assumption. So just because of the timing in which the bank took to respond, my deposit is then given to the seller?

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    Quote Originally Posted by shangan View Post
    So just because of the timing in which the bank took to respond, my deposit is then given to the seller?
    YES, unless the due diligence period was on the 25th. If your due diligence period ended on the 25th and you notified the agent about the assumption denial on the 25th then the agent might be the problem.

    If the agent is talking directly to the seller then the agent might be working for the seller and when you notified this seller's agent of the assumption denial you actually would have performed your end of the due diligence and the earnest money should go to you.

    The other problem i see is the release of the earnest money. In NC the earnest money can not be released without the signatures of both parties.

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