How long?

**ChrisF79** · 07-28-2006, 08:17 AM

Greetings,

I launched my website in early June and it has yet to show up in Google. I have numerous links pointing to it on a number of forum sites, I am doing Google Adwords, and I've also used the submit form on Google's site to tell it to crawl my site. How long should I expect it to take to get into the search results?

**HHI Golf Guy** · 07-28-2006, 08:37 AM

I checked Google, Yahoo, and MSN and see that most of the links that have been found by search engines are forums and blogs. If you check the HTML code in the blogs you will see a rel=nofollow tag attached to the link. In other words, the search engines are told not to follow those links.

As for forum posts it may take a while for those to be crawled. Google recently changed the method and frequency in which it crawls certain web sites. Maybe the folks here can tell you how often Google has crawled this forum lately.

Get yourself a good, quality link from a traditional web site or directory (not a forum or blog). In the past, directories like RealEstateABC were crawled frequently. I'm not sure how it is since the G update.

You may also want to search this forum for topics on "directories". I know some folks have posted threads about decent directories. Add you link to a few of those and you should be fine.

In my own experience, when we launch a new site it takes a day or two for MSN to find and index the home page, 3-5 days for Yahoo to find and index the home page, and 3-10 days for Google to find and index the home page.

**Chief Tutor** · 07-28-2006, 10:59 AM

HHI Golf Guy,

We have been reviewing the latest Yahoo update and have seen a significant reduction is the value of directories. The established directories are still being validated but the niche real estate directories without significant traction have benn devalued significantly.

Are you seeing the same thing?

**ChrisF79** · 07-28-2006, 11:07 AM

Wow, that really is unfortunate. Google ranking is going to be integral to my success so I'm going to have to try some other things here.

Thank you for the fast reply!

**HHI Golf Guy** · 07-28-2006, 01:55 PM

Originally Posted by Chief Tutor

HHI Golf Guy,

We have been reviewing the latest Yahoo update and have seen a significant reduction is the value of directories. The established directories are still being validated but the niche real estate directories without significant traction have benn devalued significantly.

Are you seeing the same thing?

I haven't had the time to look at that yet. We're in the middle of meeting with a client and their attorney to file 8 Digital Millenium Copyright Act complaints. I guess people really like the ad copy that we develop

I'm also researching to see if you can kill a competitor's web site ranking with links to their site from spammy, affiliate type sites. So far, it looks like you can if you can manage to build a ton of those type of links in a very short period of time.

**els** · 07-31-2006, 05:58 PM

I think you have a pretty nice looking site. You also seem to be doing a lot of the popular SEO techniques and you have decent content.

If you really read up on SEO, it takes a good 3-6 months to even show up on Google. Yes, the Google robot will crawl your site in a few days of launching but it will tak a while to show up in search results.

Really, you have only been live for a little under 2 months. Just try to frequently add original content, try to get a few good links and also try submitting a press release. It is a great way to get free publicity and your site placed on quality websites. Look at PRWeb for more info.

If you don't think you can write the press release yourself, then hire someone to do it for you. All you have to do is think of a newsworthy angle regarding your business.

Evy
ELS Virtual Solutions

**ChrisF79** · 07-31-2006, 07:28 PM

Thank you very much for the reply. I will look into PRWeb. I'm excited to get indexed in Google and get this business going!

**els** · 08-01-2006, 04:56 AM

I know...I want things to happen right now, too. It's hard to be patient when it comes to success!

**HHI Golf Guy** · 08-01-2006, 09:49 AM

Originally Posted by HHI Golf Guy

I'm also researching to see if you can kill a competitor's web site ranking with links to their site from spammy, affiliate type sites. So far, it looks like you can if you can manage to build a ton of those type of links in a very short period of time.

Let me clarify something before anyone gets the wrong idea - we are gathering information using some of our test sites. The idea is to determine if link relevance is truly a factor in rankings and if irrelevant links can have a negative impact on search engine rankings.

We have test sites with stable Google SERP's (ranked in the top 20-40 for certain terms) and we will build links from non-related sites using specific anchor text. Once we see that x amount of links are picked up across most of the SE's we check the rankings again, then build another x amount of links, wait, and check again.

There have been postings on other SEO forums either speculating or declaring that you can impact another site with spammy links. I'm running my own tests to see what happens. If you can impact another site with spammy, off topic links then Google (or Yahoo or MSN) has a MAJOR flaw in their ranking algorithm.