Yahoo Sandbox???

[justicewhite]

On other forums, people are speculating about a potential Y sandbox similar to G.

Combined with the changes I'm seeing in Y SERPs for my new sites, I'm beginning to think that it may be true.

Anyone else seeing any changes in Y?

[HHI Golf Guy]

Yahoo has made a major algo update in the past few weeks. Prior to that. I had hypothesized the probability of a Yahoo Sandbox. Here are some of my recent Yahoo findings:

1. For new and existing sites, there appears to be a filter that kicks in if you gather too many links too fast.

2. When viewing linkdomain:www.mysite.com it appears that Yahoo has purged a great number of links, even with older domains. I don't know if these purged links have been de-valued or are just not showing (like G's link: command). I can tell you that some of our older sites lost Yahoo BL count, but have not dropped in the rankings.

3. Yahoo may still be trying to work out all of the bugs with their changes. Some sites - especially new sites - are having a hard time getting more than their index page in Yahoo's database. I know many webmasters that have emailed Yahoo, and Y's canned response suggests a duplicate content penalty or a penalty stemming from violating Y's Quality Guidelines. From what I have seen, that is a BS response. I see plenty of quality sites that have only the index page in Y.

4. In an email exchange that I had with Yahoo, they are professing strict adherence to the robots.txt file. Make sure that your site has one and that it uses correct syntax throughout.

Personally, I also believe that Yahoo is reaching or has reached the upper limit of the total number of pages that they can hold in their index, or perhaps the total number of pages that they can process. I believe this accounts for the algo change and the millions of pages that Yahoo has been dropping during the past few months.

[justicewhite]

3. Yahoo may still be trying to work out all of the bugs with their changes. Some sites - especially new sites - are having a hard time getting more than their index page in Yahoo's database. I know many webmasters that have emailed Yahoo, and Y's canned response suggests a duplicate content penalty or a penalty stemming from violating Y's Quality Guidelines. From what I have seen, that is a BS response. I see plenty of quality sites that have only the index page in Y.

I am certainly seeing this with my new site.

[Las Vegas Homes]

Yahoo does IMHO have a sandbox. If you look at the information we have so far, it looks very similar to what starting happening with google about 14 months or so ago. I also believe that it just does not effect new sites. I have got information that this has also happen to older sites that added a lot of links quickly.

IMO there seems to be a ratio calculation in yahoo's algo pertaining to this filter that will kick in when a certain percentage of links are added to quickly.

[spjain81]

On other forums, people are speculating about a potential Y sandbox similar to G.

Combined with the changes I'm seeing in Y SERPs for my new sites, I'm beginning to think that it may be true.

Anyone else seeing any changes in Y?

Yahoo has a ranking filter like sandbox. If a new site gets link very quickly and trying to beat the reputed sites with very competitive keywords then yahoo put that site in ranking filter. So good strategy is, generate quality and relevant links slowly to target any search engine.

[jennsellsfast]

One way links work well on both search engines, I thought?

[johnc]

i think one way back links should be always better.

[bulair]

Pay $299 for Yahoo Directory listing and you'll get to top10 within days

[HHI Golf Guy]

Pay $299 for Yahoo Directory listing and you'll get to top10 within days

That's an old wives tale. There is no correlation between the Yahoo Directory and top placement in the organic search results.

[Nu-Home-Source-Realty]

I was rreading this and thinking it was new. But this is why in june i lost alot of spots on yahoo.com

[ericbramlett]

IMHO, any "sandbox" is simply a lack of link maturity. As your IBL's get older, the algo's rank them higher. I don't think that G or Y simply say "this site's 2 months old, let's penalize it for 4 more months."

[ColoradoHomeHelper]

I have problems with Yahoo myself...I do really well in Google..but nothing in Yahoo!

[northcaptiva]

I can't say that I have seen any sandobxing with my sites. I generally get several sites at once on page 1 in yahoo for my terms... whereas google seems to knock them out. That said, my linking is always relevant and slow.

[HHI Golf Guy]

OK folks - the original date of this post was in 2005. In SEO terms that's ancient history. Yahoo has changed their algorithm and link strategies tenfold since then.

The biggest factor in Yahoo ranking at this time is staying away from what Yahoo perceives as being a link network.

Beware of old threads on forums. Algorithms, filters, and SEO are constantly changing, and observations and strategies from even 3 months ago may no longer be valid.

[Bogzz]

where did you get that info.? i think its wrong sandbox is only for Google.

[Nu-Home-Source-Realty]

I deleted by Directory due to the google thing, since i have done that yahoo has put me in the top 5 for most of my keywords and long tials for all my sites

[kelsheikh]

I believe the biggest thing would be to stay relevant. Your content, titles, Urls, inbound link text, inbound link sites, etc. This is the direction that every search engine is headed....relevancy. Try and stay away from those directories and link exchange sites.

[BSGCORP]

I have problems with Yahoo myself...I do really well in Google..but nothing in Yahoo!


I had this same problem with my website in the past. one trick to use. that started to work for me was using Yahoo search marketing. and also yahoo answers just simply using there stuff will help with them and give you more credit on there search engines