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Codythebest
10-21-2007, 04:58 PM
I was doing some SEO on my site few months back.
My site is www.isellsevier.com (http://www.isellsevier.com)
I was doing stuff I learnt on the web.
Recently, somebody did some '3 ways link' for me. At that time, I didn't know what it was, but the lady who did it told me I could get on the first page on Google for specific keywords or keyphrase.
Since it was free, I let her doing it.
It was on DP forum:
http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=428647
and my case was obviously for www.isellsevier.com (http://www.isellsevier.com)

She manage to get my site from #33 to #8 in 4 weeks for the keyphrase: Gatlinburg Real Estate.
Of course, she did that to have some customers, since the deal cost $47/month and she get some referal fee I guess.
Nevertheless, it worked very well. It's over since about 1 month now but I'm still #10.

So, I checked for this 3 ways links stuff, and I found www.seozar.com (http://www.seozar.com)
I'm trying this one because it's free. I'll keep an eye on it to see any results.

You guys may try it also. It's not my site so don't worry. Even if it was, it's free anyway.

Impressive enough for me to doing it...

Malok
10-21-2007, 06:02 PM
Glad to hear you had some success. (Just a note: from my data center for google, you are also #10. Still quite respectable though anytime you are on page 1. Congrats.)

Just a word of restraint. 3 way links are detectable by google.


Does it work? Sure it does.

But moderation & reasonability is key though.


If you go CRAZY with it, you'll get the big G slapping you down hard with a penalty when they pick up on it (or if someone turns you in).
A few months ago a LOT of people got a 60 day penalty from google because of state pages.

Codythebest
10-22-2007, 04:26 AM
This site has only few partners so far, like 840. The other one had thousands...So I'm downsizing I guess :)

HHI Golf Guy
10-22-2007, 05:34 AM
In all likelihood it was the addition of the links themselves and not the fact that they were three way links that helped your site.

At one of the SEO conferences a few years ago Google provided a demonstration of their link tracking ability. Audience participants were asked to give their web address, and within seconds Google was able to tell them how many total links, reciprocal links, one way links, three way links, and paid links pointed to that particular web site. It was a scary demonstration.

What everyone needs to be aware of is participating in anything that Google considers a link scheme. It may end up killing your site.

The title of your post says it all - "Link Trick". If you're comfortable with link tactics that may yield short term results but may have long term repercussions then strategies like those are fine for your business model. I prefer strategies that provide long term, stable results.

Greg
10-22-2007, 05:56 AM
The big g has already cached this thread and all of the posts in it so I would bet they know what you are up to. The big G is watching.

VegasRealEstate
10-22-2007, 11:23 AM
So I guess we can start Calling Google, "Big Brother", lol!!! They are always watching :)

I'm with HHI_Golf_Guy, stay away from anything that says "SEO Tricks", thats bad!

Codythebest
10-22-2007, 12:44 PM
So, I guess it's not a good idea after all...Shoot, It worked for me :o

HHI Golf Guy
10-22-2007, 01:02 PM
So, I guess it's not a good idea after all...Shoot, It worked for me :o

It's up tp you to decide on the risk/reward of this strategy. There are some people that swear by 3 way link exchanges. Others, like me, do not want to risk their client sites being filtered or penalized.

Understand that three way links are NOT generally considered black hat SEO tactics. Unless you go nuts with this tactic, chances are your site is fine for now. But it is a form of link manipulation.

Google let the genie out of the bottle when they began factoring in links as part of their algorithm. It's only logical that they will continue to find ways to refine their algorithm and the weight the place upon certain types of links.

Whether Google devalues certain three way link combinations in 6 months or 6 years is anyone's guess. My advice to everyone is to look at the long term picture. When there is a major algorithm change, sites that use common sense, long term strategies almost always weather the storm. It's the folks that try to game the system that usually tank in the rankings.

Malok
10-22-2007, 07:05 PM
It's up tp you to decide on the risk/reward of this strategy. There are some people that swear by 3 way link exchanges. Others, like me, do not want to risk their client sites being filtered or penalized.

Yup, same boat for me.

I don't want the risk of a potential downside, so I don't participate in it.

Mike Taylor
10-23-2007, 04:01 AM
3 way links may be fine in moderation, but I think the real key is to have a diverse linking strategy and not rely so heavily on just one type.

Honeycomb Properties
10-23-2007, 09:51 AM
I think Mike hit the nail on the head. There are several ways to create links to your site and you shouldn't believe any one strategy is the answer to all your needs.

The best advice I found regarding SEO and Linking techniques is this:
"Would you still perform the action if it didn't improve your search engine rankings?"

bluefrog59
11-08-2007, 04:36 PM
...The title of your post says it all - "Link Trick". If you're comfortable with link tactics that may yield short term results but may have long term repercussions then strategies like those are fine for your business model. I prefer strategies that provide long term, stable results.

Right to the point!

And long term stable results come from rich content related to what your site visitors really want to know and letting the traffic come in organically.

charlieberry
12-26-2007, 01:00 PM
Right to the point!

And long term stable results come from rich content related to what your site visitors really want to know and letting the traffic come in organically.

The Big G will catch onto these "schemes" your best bet id to follow the guidelines in G Webmaster and let the algorithims knock all of your competition out, you will have more sustainable results by following the guidelines!!

BSGCORP
01-02-2008, 11:20 AM
In all likelihood it was the addition of the links themselves and not the fact that they were three way links that helped your site.

At one of the SEO conferences a few years ago Google provided a demonstration of their link tracking ability. Audience participants were asked to give their web address, and within seconds Google was able to tell them how many total links, reciprocal links, one way links, three way links, and paid links pointed to that particular web site. It was a scary demonstration.

What everyone needs to be aware of is participating in anything that Google considers a link scheme. It may end up killing your site.

The title of your post says it all - "Link Trick". If you're comfortable with link tactics that may yield short term results but may have long term repercussions then strategies like those are fine for your business model. I prefer strategies that provide long term, stable results.


very true. shortcuts only help in the short commings with the algorithm. Theres a right way and a wrong way. doing things the long hard way are the best if you plan on staying in business for many years.

larthestar
01-21-2008, 05:45 PM
If the links you are getting are not relevant to your industry are you getting any benefit or hurting yourself.

the-ref
02-04-2008, 09:30 AM
If the links you are getting are not relevant to your industry are you getting any benefit or hurting yourself.
That really all depends on the number of irrelevant links you have. If you have a couple, it really shouldn't be a big deal, but if that is all you have, then the big G will probably penalize you.

charlieberry
02-04-2008, 10:04 AM
That really all depends on the number of irrelevant links you have. If you have a couple, it really shouldn't be a big deal, but if that is all you have, then the big G will probably penalize you.

I disagree with that way of thinking, reverse your logic, if that was true, I could go out and purchase many irrelevant links pointing at my competitions sites, and theoretically boost my results by sabotaging them. I think more likey, some links are given positive acknowledgement and others are simplly overlooked for irrelavancy.

Charlie Berry
www.OwnCharlotte.com

RobM
02-04-2008, 06:21 PM
I think he is right about that...you may have many "irrelevant" links but I dont believe that you will be poisoned for it, just not as rewarded for it. A good mix should do the trick

cobs
03-12-2008, 10:23 AM
Well link exchanges are definitely manipulation of the google algo IMO, but then do you have a choice either
But linking strategy should be widespread and not just obtaining a particular backlink from just webpages, it should include, blog commenting, blog posts, homepage backlinks, directory links, article submissions........i can go on and on............

rainier
05-19-2008, 03:44 AM
I agree with HHI Golf Guy, it's better to be aware what we are doing for us not to waste time and effort.

jamesww
05-19-2008, 04:23 AM
Or just build the links through a system that mimicks the natural development of networks and fits the normal distribution. This makes it very difficult to penalize a site because it turns into a web wide penalty.

Sapre
06-13-2008, 09:05 AM
I agree. Natural link building, in my opinion, is the best way to get good rankings and traffic to your site. I just posted in another forum about a friend of mine who has a horrible experience with offshore link building who sold her a package fo 900 links little money. Nothing wrong with the link builders, it's just their directories are way below par....

wchua24
06-13-2008, 09:11 AM
guy thanks you so much for the information...i am starting to get the point here...and slowly understanding every bit of optimizing sites..:)

rainier
06-24-2008, 06:23 AM
Link Building is very helpful to promote your site especially if you aim to have more traffic and more visibility for your site.

philippine_real_estate
07-15-2008, 09:01 PM
3 way link exchange is a good way to get some one-way links but it should be done slowly and steadily.

rainier
07-17-2008, 04:28 AM
good for you but just a piece of advice you need to monitor who links to your site, it must be related to your site as well as it must be from credible site.

DrewMurr2
07-21-2008, 01:51 PM
thanks Cody I appreciate the help

Codythebest
07-21-2008, 07:10 PM
thanks Cody I appreciate the help

You're welcome.
To give some updates, the site goes between #4 and #8 now. Is it the 3 way links? not sure, maybe...

jvcus17
07-23-2008, 05:11 PM
well link building is one of the key to endorse your site. It helps you to market your site using another websites...

creativecommercialcapital
08-06-2008, 02:52 PM
I tried it for my site and it works. the links are actually getting the search engines to look at your site and spiders to crawl your site more often.

TheLady
08-06-2008, 03:27 PM
everything in moderation is ok. as long as you do not over do anything google or the new 'big bro of the internet' will not be an issue... however if you can't keep the internet movement going forward, and resort to what ever 'black hat' tricks come your way, OR use one form of link more than others they will hit you and hit you hard.

matt16122
08-07-2008, 06:55 PM
I was doing some SEO on my site few months back.
My site is www.isellsevier.com (http://www.isellsevier.com)


There are 2 basic seo tips you can do.

1. Your meta tag description can be improved.
2. Create a page called Gatlinburg-Real-Estate

pm sent regarding 2.