DMOZ penalized by Google

[Honeycomb Properties]

If you haven't heard, apparently DMOZ has been removed from Google (http://72.14.209.104/search?sourceid=navclient-ff&ie=UTF-8&q=cache%3Ahttp%3A%2F%2Fwww.dmoz.org%2F).
Google has been preaching for a while not to buy links and rumors abound about corrupt DMOZ editors.

If you've ever tried to get a site listed in DMOZ then you know they get around to your listing when never rolls around. Several other pages than their homepage are still being indexed, but the news on the street is Google isn't happy w/DMOZ. Google may be using this to try and scare everyone away from paying for links.

[Mike Taylor]

I didn't hear about this...G is really trying to crack down on paid links and shady directories. It was recip. links before now it is directories. I don't know about you, but it kind of has me paranoid about getting new links.

[Mike Taylor]

Did you see their official response (http://blog.dmoz.org/2007/09/26/the-search-for-dmoz/) to this? I don't know, but I tend to believe it. I just searched for DMOZ, and they came up as #1. If their were really penalized they would nowhere to be found.

[Greg]

For the last couple of years the best I could do on the big g was #5 for my main keyword phrase. The top 4 spots went to sites that had a dmoz link and nothing else. Now those sites are falling of the first page and I am #2.

I knew g had to devalue dmoz sooner or later, not because of paid links but because it represented such a small percentage of the internet and it listed a lot of poor sites and excluded good sites.

I had 100 pages of original content and I wasn't good enough for them but they would accept 10 page canned framed sites.

[dbar]

I agree with Mike Taylor, I don't think there is a penalty. With AOL owning DMOZ now and the fact that Google uses the DMOZ to populate it's own directory I still think there is value in trying to get your site listed. I wouldn't cry if I didn't get a site listed, but it's still worth taking the time to submit your site.

[Honeycomb Properties]

I'm not saying a company would be penalized by Google for being listed in DMOZ, I was just stating that the buzz on the net was that Google had removed DMOZ itself from the SERPS. It may have been a glitch in the system or the 2 worked things out because DMOZ is back in Google now, but earlier this week if you searched for DMOZ in Google- it didn't show up, only other pages about DMOZ.

I submit all my sites to them and was also complaining that it can take months and months to finally get listed...

Sorry, must have posted at a bad time- I normally try not to complain.

[Greg]

G could have devalued them without giving them a penalty. At one time a link at dmoz was worth it's weight in gold. Not anymore.

[PEscobedo]

So how do we get around these problems

[Jade456]

LOL, that is the million dollar question. I look at it this way, if you can get a DMOZ link, then why not?

[bluefrog59]

I think Jade is right. Google can't punish the millions of links that already exist in DMOZ, the worst they could do is to give the link less weight in their algo. Either way - there is an advantage to being in DMOZ: Many smaller engines suck data out of DMOZ to seed their own SE's and your site might actually be found on one of these engines.

Honestly - how many times do you run to DMOZ to find something? Most of us run to our favorite search engine and try various search strings until we find what we are looking for.

[goreseo]

Google didnt penalized but dont give any importance to sites listed in DMOZ any more, specially new sites which are listed faster because u hire a SEO who happened to be editor too.

[PEscobedo]

what exactly are you talking about? I do not quite understand what you mean. Sorry, can you please elaborate on this for me?

[goreseo]

All i mean is that Google does not give extra credit if your site is listed in DMOZ any more.

Few years ago when page rank and directory listings were very important at that time Google does gave high ranking (Page rank) to sites listed in web directories like DMOZ, Yahoo etc.

Things you do get from DMOZ are visitors and link popularity but sites not listed in DMOZ are doing much better then sites listed in DMOZ.

[PEscobedo]

Thank you, I appreciate you clearing that up for me. It was valuable and I am glad you took the time to write back to me.

Have a good day.

[Norman.Irlandez]

good info

do you have any hard facts about this, because, i am about to put my site in their directory,

is this still good or not?

[Rehoboth1]

I haven't seen any penalties in terms of Google Pagerank for DMOZ. I currently have seven sites indexed in DMOX and all of them are still on PR5 pages and I can see the links passed in my Google Webmaster's tools.

One word of advice, when submitting to DMOZ, to be taken seriously, make sure you have your domain registered for at least two to five years. They generally won't even look at sites that have a one year registration.

[FJCOM]

Dmoz - never heard of the "corruption"

But it would explain why I still haven't been listed after months and months. Or is it almost a year now?

[the-ref]

Getting your site listed after a year is not unheard of when it comes to the DMOZ. If it has been that long though, I would strongly recommend you resubmit your site in 3-4 month increments.

Nonetheless, I don't see Google penalizing DMOZ that much. Granted, there are loopholes that can easily be taken advantage of (i.e. become an editor), but Google owns DMOZ, so it wouldn't surprise me if they stepped up their 'application' process to become an editor...

[MAAOnline]

Is there any other open directory other than DMOZ that can be used that will add to your website's google ranking?

[PEscobedo]

Yahoo is a must have directory. Also here is a link to hundreds of directories that will help your rankings on Google.

See below-

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=223435

[MAAOnline]

Yahoo is a must have directory. Also here is a link to hundreds of directories that will help your rankings on Google.

See below-

http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?t=223435

Awesome!! THANK YOU so much! This should be very useful! Cool, Cool!

[PEscobedo]

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[RobM]

DMOZ has always been a pain in my side. They seem so anal about things. I would stear clear and not worry about DMOZ ever and am glad they got penilized. But they probably dont care

[ghp]

I have grown very very tired of trying to get anything listed on DMOZ, the editors there are either arrogant or corrupt.

[Jim]

I have grown very very tired of trying to get anything listed on DMOZ, the editors there are either arrogant or corrupt.
I too have had trouble getting listed on DMOZ. It is like I send my submissions into a black hole. :confused:

[flatfeemls]

This is proposturous. They penalized directories in general not DMOZ.

Maybe its less popular now less hype.

But not gone.

[proleads]

Still Dmoz having the same reputation and indexed pages in Google those were earlier it had.
You won't get your site indexed that does not mean you can start blaming dmoz, it's very reputed directory, and Google mainly fatches the data first from Dmoz it self.

You can view by site command there are still 929,000 pages are indexed for Dmoz.

Do you think this amount is very less?

And if you had experienced such things it might be possible there were update going on that particular data center.

Regards,
Chaitanya

[u474755]

When did DMOZ start charging. I put my site on there and it was free.

[TimuM]

When did DMOZ start charging. I put my site on there and it was free.

As far as i know they do not charge Yet :)

[flatfeemls]

I think google was downgrading directories in general.

[riverviewrichie]

How do you get listed in Dmoz. Isn't it hard?

[u474755]

No. I was pretty easy for me. Just go to the DMOZ site and find the category you want to be listed in. Then just hit the link for "suggest a site". You just have to fill out the form and submit it. It is a human reviewed site, which takes a little while to get in, but as long as you have a legitimate site, you should get in.

[kdobbs]

Wow. I've had trouble getting my site listed in the DMOZ too. Jenna Ryan at TheMarketingShop.com says that Google has more likely downgraded the value of DMOZ listing as opposed to removing or penalizing sites within the directory. This is a good thing!

[Honeycomb Properties]

Wow. I've had trouble getting my site listed in the DMOZ too. Jenna Ryan at TheMarketingShop.com says that Google has more likely downgraded the value of DMOZ listing as opposed to removing or penalizing sites within the directory. This is a good thing!

Google penalized (downgraded) DMOZ's value which directly affected some sites strongly ranked due mainly to DMOZ.

[jamesww]

Google penalized (downgraded) DMOZ's value which directly affected some sites strongly ranked due mainly to DMOZ.


DMOZ is still the granddaddy of all links when it comes to google and google's indexing is still based on DMOZ. In fact if you get a link added to DMOZ you will see a less then 24 hr period to indexing.