DMOZ submission Staus Check [Archive]

SanDiego-RealEstate-Agent

01-30-2005, 12:34 PM

Yeah, swapped and lazy(DMOZ)... When I used to be an editor there i would check the site submission from the inside to look and see if my site had been even looked at (similar to the way the forum you posted does) and my editors came around every 2-3 months and then wouldnt add any more to the list because it was at 199.....

lol..
DMOZ is losing it touch..IMHO :eek:

Las Vegas Homes

01-30-2005, 10:35 PM

I would use the term lazy and corupt..lol. I have serveral submissions in with them and nothing ever seems to get placed on the directory. We had one site that was placed in the directory and after a post where we disagreed with one of the editors the next day the site was removed from the directory.

This doesnt mean that all the editors there are lazy or corupt. There are really some good people there that try to help. but they are few and far between. I wish there wasnt so much importance placed on DMOZ directory with Google but this is a fact none of us can change at this time.

To be honest I like the MSN directory a lot better.

VegasMack

02-01-2005, 09:34 AM

http://resource-zone.com/forum/

Here is a great way to check on your DMOZ submission status! These folks are swamped so be patient!

:)And be careful! As Las Vegas Homes (http://www.national-real-estate-directory.com/real-estate-forum/member.php?u=9) pointed out, when he asked about a status an editor responded with a sarcastic post. Of course my occasionally confrontational partner from Las Vegas fired a salvo back. I went into the forum to try and make peace, and even though I remained professional and courteous, my site was removed from the directory. Anyone wanting documentation and a thread link can PM me.

All this happened prior to entering into a partnership with Las Vegas Homes (http://www.national-real-estate-directory.com/real-estate-forum/member.php?u=9), and his site was a C21 site and my site was a Liberty Realty site, so they can’t make a point or excuse about both sites being the same company, or same agent. This can be verified via the “Way Back Machine” if anyone is interested in the truth (DMOZ staff included).

The removal of my site was unprovoked and without any other reason than an editor retaliating without cause or provocation.

Use EXTREME Caution when posting to that forum. There are many hot headed egotistical editors floating about that are on an outright power binge.

As a former DMOZ Edital with hundreds of hours of editing and thousands of edits, I am truly embarrassed for the few remaining good Meta-editors and the organization as a whole for what it has become.

~VegasMack

Real Estate Forum

02-06-2005, 09:34 AM

The DMOZ editors claim to be selfless and public servants when in reality they get HUGE benefits. They never show their own sites because it would break a whole into what they portrait a perfect site should look like.

DMOZ is a great concept but depends on the editors so much that they run it now and have created this exclusive club of webmasters who hook up themselves and their friends and clients.

Clean it up, DMOZ!

Real Estate Forum

02-06-2005, 12:26 PM

On another note ... I want to get this forum into DMOZ :D

VegasMack

02-06-2005, 03:48 PM

On another note ... I want to get this forum into DMOZ :DLMAO Mike.

You must not have read my post in the other DMOZ thread.

When what freezes? :eek:

~VegasMack

CTABUK

02-09-2005, 01:20 AM

VegasMack

02-09-2005, 05:42 AM

Greetings, poor old DMOZ - I really hope this helps, but many forum members have been tearing their hair out since reading it.It is long but very enlightening and my post got me a genuine Google backlink, enjoy

http://resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=12651It was a good read, but more heavy on the ODP “rope a dope” than an insight into DMOZ.

During my tenure at ODP, I avoided the forums if any of my cats had submissions over 30 days old. However, forum participation (not the public one) is encouraged by ODP staff.

Yes, there are multiple ways for editors to find good sites for inclusion into the directory, but why spend hours surfing the net when you have hundreds of submissions on your CP in queue? That is just not very efficient IMHO.

The thread had slight overtones of all submissions being possible spam. And what are the editors exposed to when venturing out on the Internet and how are they protected from spam? Perhaps a moratorium on surfing until an editor clears their queues ….. hummm??

And BTW the editors DO know how many submissions are in queue for each of their categories, and the date of each submission. The queue can be sorted by date or alphabetically, ascending or descending at the push of a button.

We can talk about why it takes a submission so long to be reviewed, and how many different ways editors look for quality sites all day, but the simple truth is that the system is not working.

Instead of the editors so strappingly defending the status quo, perhaps they should genuinely listen to the Internet community. Remember the anecdote about the man that was drinking? If one man tells you your drunk he could be wrong, if ten men tell you your dunk its time to lay down.

An editors primary function is to add quality sites with original content and what better way to start that those already in queue on their CP every time the login?

If ODP were a business, how would you rate its performance?

Would you buy stock?

~VegasMack

ffang2

02-09-2005, 03:59 PM

I've been to that DMOZ forum before.

VegasMack

02-10-2005, 05:22 AM

I've been to that DMOZ forum before, I personally think the editors posting there are condesending to the point of being rude. I mean, would it be that difficult for them to actually be nice? What a novel thought. They have an awful lot of power, and they know it.It takes more effort to be mean spirited than it does to be nice. Nice cost you nothing, and brings many rewards.

I take it ffang2 that you would NOT buy stock in ODP if it were a company?

~VegasMack

Real Estate Forum

02-14-2005, 09:30 AM

Real Estate Forum

02-14-2005, 09:38 AM

To be honest, I went in there just to test their attitude these days. I remember the way they used to be and was wondering if in light of their recent scandals they would still be on the same high horse.

Real Estate Forum

02-14-2005, 09:48 AM

I just had to respond, even though I didn't have the patience to read thru it all ;) http://resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?p=158934#post158934

cgmaker

03-12-2005, 08:09 PM

Real Estate Forum

03-14-2005, 07:53 PM

that was the thread which once got me banned from Resource Zone ( I am now a member again ). Thanks for bringing it back up ;)

VegasMack

03-15-2005, 08:17 PM

I have a solution for their rudeness and DMOZ to lose it's importance. Alot of us are SEO's and the best around. Why don't we all make sites with all the horror stories and get them ranked for the word "DMOZ". That way everyone who is new to the game will see what they are worth. Google will not want a part of that publicity for being manipulated by a DMOZ listing and it will lose it's importance. There are anti dmoz sites out there. I for one am considering providing SEO for free to them.It’s not a really a bad idea cgmaker, but I am not sure we could do a better job of making DMOZ less relevant than they are doing themselves.

We all still need to remember that there are many well intentioned editors that in spite of their best efforts are still being painted with the same broad brush as the bad ones.

I still hold hope that the powers to be will step in, clean house and restore ODP to its former standing.

~VegasMack

Real Estate Forum

03-15-2005, 09:23 PM

last night a friend of mine who edits a category did post in resource zone about how unhappy she was with I guess what you may call Super Editors editing the sites she adds.
Within minutes her thread was moved into the private section of resource zone, there is a lot of infighting going on and once again, it affects the overall quality of search results we see today.

Mike

CTABUK

03-17-2005, 05:53 AM

Mike, did you have any joy in getting DMOZ to list this forum? If not I think I know a way.

AI - with all the talk about Artificial Intellegence and the SE's, (and BTW did anyone know that MSN is breaking away from Yahoo PPC to do its own?)
Well it would appear that DMOZ could have a problem on its hands, and one that could relate to our Industry - probably not in the USA just yet, but most certainly in the UK. If an editor is going to have to 'vet an article' then you guys will be well p*****d if the editor turns out to be a competitor who does not like you. But that is what could happen. I'll explain, firstly the UK is one million miles behind the USA in forums, I hope that most of you like the fact that you have a Brit in your midst, well put it this way if we hade a decent Mortgage Forum in the UK I'd be in it, I don't have the time or inclination to start one, and if there was one I'd invite you guys over. But because I am Authorised by the Financial Services Authority (UK Government) if I applied for an Editorship on Financial Services then DMOZ would find it very hard to refuse me. With worldwide regulations on Financial Services not a million miles away, how can we safeguard the choice of Editors that DMOZ takes on?
You could have the best RE site in your State, but if a DMOZ Guy, does not like you, wow. Solution. Apply!

Raheel

03-17-2005, 03:53 PM

Hi
Can Any one tell me the real status of http://www.foreclosure4sale.com

Thanks,

Real Estate Forum

03-17-2005, 05:14 PM

Mike, did you have any joy in getting DMOZ to list this forum? If not I think I know a way.
Show me the way :)

PM me!

Las Vegas Homes

03-17-2005, 08:18 PM

I say you create a site that offers the ability of those that visit to sign a petition that states how unfair and corrupt DMOZ is and not only forward that to Google but also AOL. Just food for thought.

You could post a link on every forum that we all visit and watch how much traffic the site gets. IMHO you would get thousands to sign.

Real Estate Forum

03-21-2005, 03:35 PM

Wayne, can you clean out your PM box :)

CTABUK

03-22-2005, 07:55 AM

Show me the way :)

PM me!
Mike I have done so, did you get it? Cheers David

Real Estate Forum

03-22-2005, 12:56 PM

Thank you, CB ... just PMed you back.

Mike

sarahk

03-23-2005, 02:35 PM

I say you create a site that offers the ability of those that visit to sign a petition that states how unfair and corrupt DMOZ is and not only forward that to Google but also AOL. Just food for thought.

So when does the corruption kick in. I'm still waiting...
Is it just the meta editors or does every editor get little brown paper bags full of $$$ Have I not been doing the secret handshake? I have stuffed up so badly. I want compensation, I want corruption!

Sarah

VegasMack

03-26-2005, 10:21 PM

I still think the rhetoric about DMOZ corruption is far too broad based in this forum IMHO.

Sure there are some bad editors, but there are plenty of good ones too.

You will find “bad apples” in every group, but let’s not throw out the Baby with the bathwater.

It looks like we are tossing a grenade into a bank to get the bank robbers. Sure it may take them out, but what about the innocent bystanders?

Find and report any abuse or corruption, but let’s not generalize an entire organization as corrupt. That isn’t fair to the editors are not IMHO.

~VegasMack

Real Estate Forum

03-28-2005, 03:48 AM

I have to agree. There has been a lot of energy flying around concerning DMOZ. I am definitely guilty of wasting too much energy on the subject matter.

San Diego Real Estate

04-16-2005, 06:33 PM

Great point Mack! I know they are busy and lets face it there is a lot of submissions to work through! ;)

Real Estate Forum

04-16-2005, 06:45 PM

So when does the corruption kick in. I'm still waiting...
Is it just the meta editors or does every editor get little brown paper bags full of $$$ Have I not been doing the secret handshake? I have stuffed up so badly. I want compensation, I want corruption!

Sarah
Sarah, please come back :)

sarahk

04-19-2005, 12:18 PM

Sarah, please come back :)
I haven't been far away. I've been busy adding some link exchange info to my blog at http://sarahk.pcpropertymanager.com/blog/ and I took off to the beach for a few days with my beloved, our 2 and 2 of their mates. Came home to very, very full inboxes.

The DMOZ bashing doesn't really matter to me in my little corner of the world (http://dmoz.org/Regional/Oceania/New_Zealand/Auckland/). I can see that I'm "doing good" for the businesses in my region. If there is corruption and dissention elsewhere then so be it.

I figure you get out what you put in.

Sarah

Real Estate Forum

04-19-2005, 12:23 PM

Nice to have you back :)
I am glad you have a life offline as well :D
I had no idea you edit at DMOZ but you are not the only member here who does :)
There are quite a few here actually.
Your blog is cool - unique.

We are still finishing up work for our Real Estate Blog system!

Mike

Real Estate Forum

04-23-2005, 06:50 PM

I have put up a blog regarding DMOZ
http://www.national-real-estate-directory.com/real-estate-forum/showthread.php?p=3277#post3277
if anyone has something to say, post on there.
We are here to find solutions, not create more problems.

Mike

San Diego Real Estate

04-28-2005, 08:21 PM

I agree Mike...Great solutions come from the opportunity! ;)

sarahk

04-28-2005, 08:52 PM

The DMOZ bashing doesn't really matter to me in my little corner of the world (http://dmoz.org/Regional/Oceania/New_Zealand/Auckland/). Aaah, about 100 edits done today, even did some car yards (yawn). I'm having fun using a tool called Apollo (http://odp.dlugan.com/apollo.cgi). I thoroughly recommend it to all editors with a big stack to work through.

On the other hand if the wallies downstairs would give me access through their firewall to the system I'm meant to be working on I could be working for my consulting fees :)

Real Estate Forum

04-28-2005, 09:07 PM

That is exactly what DMOZ editors need so they can find the pearls in the piles.

San Diego Real Estate

04-28-2005, 10:11 PM

Aaah, about 100 edits done today, even did some car yards (yawn). I'm having fun using a tool called Apollo (http://odp.dlugan.com/apollo.cgi). I thoroughly recommend it to all editors with a big stack to work through.

On the other hand if the wallies downstairs would give me access through their firewall to the system I'm meant to be working on I could be working for my consulting fees :)
Thanks Sarah any other tools of the trade?

sarahk

04-28-2005, 10:24 PM

I think the wallies read this forum. After 3 days of nothing I finally have access :D

Some of the editors use bookmarklets extensively and I certainly could use one for my whois lookups. Must think about writing one. they're pretty easy and actually quite good for any repetitive work you do via a browser.

I have one for launching my linkmanager (http://sarahk.pcpropertymanager.com/blog/link-manager-for-link-exchangers/31/) tool - when I find a page full of potential link partners I click it and a window launches, calls a script and starts the scraper. I find if link partners are easy to administer I'm more likely to be fussy.

Aaaah, so many directories, so little time.

Sarah

Shimmer

04-29-2005, 03:13 PM

:( how much is the dmoz submission ? anybody knows?

Shimmer

04-29-2005, 03:15 PM

which way is the best way for blog? or place?

sarahk

04-29-2005, 03:48 PM

:( how much is the dmoz submission ? anybody knows?
DMOZ submissions cost only your time. No money changes hands.
Take time to read the guidelines (http://www.resource-zone.com/guidelines.php) and query your submission status through the resource zone (http://resource-zone.com/forum/forumdisplay.php?f=22) and you should be OK.

Sarah

sarahk

04-29-2005, 03:49 PM

which way is the best way for blog? or place?
Not sure I understand the question...

Real Estate Forum

05-01-2005, 03:35 PM

This thread is the most visited one by guests.

Real Estate Forum

05-01-2005, 04:01 PM

I always feel like, somebody's watching me-hee and I have no privacy, ohoho

mtgman

05-02-2005, 05:34 PM

DMOZ submissions cost only your time

A WHOLE lot of it. :) Sarah or anyone. I would love it if you would kindly put my site in or kick it out,,,,,,,, either one. I have been patiently waiting since October 29, 2003, 08:11 PM. Actually,, Spetember of that year. Any help you can give? :D

sarahk

05-02-2005, 05:43 PM

A WHOLE lot of it. :) Sarah or anyone. I would love it if you would kindly put my site in or kick it out,,,,,,,, either one. I have been patiently waiting since October 29, 2003, 08:11 PM. Actually,, Spetember of that year. Any help you can give? :D

No...
1. I'd be tarred and feathered if I interfered
2. My power and influence doesn't extend that far

:)

Sarah

Real Estate Forum

05-02-2005, 05:47 PM

A WHOLE lot of it. :) Sarah or anyone. I would love it if you would kindly put my site in or kick it out,,,,,,,, either one. I have been patiently waiting since October 29, 2003, 08:11 PM. Actually,, Spetember of that year. Any help you can give? :D
Hmm ... have you ever been to resource zone to request a status check?

mtgman

05-03-2005, 06:07 AM

April 21, 2005, 08:40 AM Six months from November 20th is May 20th, so that's the time for another status update.

That is the last response I recieved from Resource Zone. I have quickly realized that it seems RZ is a waste of time as well as they do not give any helpful info as well.

judyo

05-03-2005, 08:24 AM

I never put in a request on RZ because I read the rules and one of them was not to even ask until 6 months after submission. I didn't mark down the date of my submission so there was no way I was going to make a request since I would have expected a similar answer.

So now I'm going to submit my site and mark the date down on my calendar (& mark it down 6 months from when I submit), & then I'll make my request. And I'll make that request in the exact way they spell it out to do it.

Seems like if you follow their posting/request rules exactly they're a little gentler.

Real Estate Forum

05-04-2005, 02:32 PM

this thread (http://www.resource-zone.com/forum/showthread.php?t=35315&page=1&pp=15) on resource zone will mark the date for me for when I can ask them again

Real Estate Forum

05-08-2005, 08:45 PM

I have also started a thread about DMOZ and what could be done to improve it right here (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=169097#post169097) :)

Shimmer

05-09-2005, 02:20 PM

how is dmoz forum? :confused:

VegasMack

05-10-2005, 09:41 PM

Approach the form with extreme caution.

What may appear to be a blunt or rude response to your post is generally just an overworked editor trying to answer as many requests as possible in a short amount of time.

Regardless of how you feel they responded, DO NOT become argumentative. Take their answer and or advice and leave it alone.

I have seen too many people self destruct in that forum. ;)

~VegasMack