Real Estate Marketing Tip Of The Month

[San Diego Real Estate]

Great Tips Guys...

How about a free Physical Inspection, Home Warranty or Appraisal? ;)

[NashuaWebDesign]

An even cleaner way:

Get different domain names (www.Miamihomes.com, www.MiamiCondos.com, www.MiamiRentals.com). They're a whole $9 each. FORWARD these domains to your regular website. Make sure you have a good hit counter on your site (I use Sitemeter.com). You can see exactly which domains are bringing in traffic! Plus, the domain names you advertise are easier to remember, and much shorter than www.MiamiHomes.com/publication.html

[frobn]

An even cleaner way:

Get different domain names (www.Miamihomes.com, www.MiamiCondos.com, www.MiamiRentals.com). They're a whole $9 each. FORWARD these domains to your regular website. Make sure you have a good hit counter on your site (I use Sitemeter.com). You can see exactly which domains are bringing in traffic! Plus, the domain names you advertise are easier to remember, and much shorter than www.MiamiHomes.com/publication.html

What is the difference between the above and "doorway" sites?

[judyo]

I have diffferent domain names for my sites (a long descriptive name with keywords in it and a short, easy to remember name for off-line marketing). I do not forward these to my default domain (the descriptive url), I use a 301 redirect.

How does one simply "forward" a domain name & could it be construed as duplicate content by doing it this way? Is this what a 302 redirect is & why have I heard that this shouldn't be done?

I could use several easy to remember short urls for marketing efforts but I really would like to know the proper way to do this.

[NashuaWebDesign]

I usually register all domains at GoDaddy, and that's a feature they have built in. Essentially, it sets up a frame container with no "top" section.. that's all it really is. That way the title of the forwarded name is at the top, but the site itself is the site you forwarded to. It is NOT a redirect and it is NOT duplicate content.

[KSA]

Nashua,

I'd recommend checking that GoDaddy forward. In my experience, it does come out as a 302 redirect, which isn't good for the search engines.

Try this site: http://www.searchengineworld.com/cgi-bin/servercheck.cgi


Enter the domain name that you forwarded at GoDaddy. If it says:

Status: 302

that's not the best way to point the name to your site. You should use a 301 redirect.

Kathleen

[NashuaWebDesign]

Server Response: http://www.agentNH.com
Status: HTTP/1.1 200 OK
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 19:00:42 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.31 (Unix) mod_pointer/0.8 PHP/4.3.2
X-Powered-By: PHP/4.3.2
Connection: close
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html



Server Header Checker
URL
User: 24.41.2.180 re

[KSA]

Well, I'm confused. I have a domain name forwarded with GoDaddy, and here are its stats:

Status: HTTP/1.1 302 Found
Date: Fri, 05 Aug 2005 19:13:23 GMT
Server: Apache/1.3.31 (Unix) mod_pointer/0.8 PHP/4.3.2
X-Redirected-By: mod_pointer - http://stderr.net/mod_pointer/
Location: https://www.securepaynet.net/gdshop/rhp/default.asp?prog_id=k234allar
Connection: close
Transfer-Encoding: chunked
Content-Type: text/html; charset=iso-8859-1


I am not trying to rank with the SEs, so I don't really care. But, Nashua, how did you get yours to do a 301??

[Real Estate Forum]

Have you guys tried any of these? http://www.digitalpoint.com/tools/ They work well for me for just about anything. btw I used to do free redirects with http://www.mydomain.com and those have worked well.

[NashuaWebDesign]

I didn't do ANYTHING! Just choose your domain, choose FORWARDING, Masking... and forward the domain. Didn't do anything more than that!

[frobn]

I didn't do ANYTHING! Just choose your domain, choose FORWARDING, Masking... and forward the domain. Didn't do anything more than that!

There is your problem. 302 indicates a temporary move and Forwarding at godaddy is a temporary move.

[NashuaWebDesign]

Not sure what you mean. What problem is there...?

[KSA]

But, Frobn, both Nashua and I did the same thing at GoDaddy, and look at his header at the bottom of page 1 of this thread!

Nashua, this is silly!!

I sent them an email support request - don't have time right now to hang on the support phone line.

I'll let you know if they have a reasonable explanation.

K

[KSA]

OK, I got an answer. Nashua, you must have your forwarded domain hosted at GoDaddy. Then, they do some behind the scenes stuff to do a 301 - maybe a .htaccess file or something.

I have the domain parked at GoDaddy, and the forward does a 302.

I just love computers. :p

[Real Estate Forum]

OK, to be honest I never really got that 301 and 302 stuff, I just know what code works :) Which is temporary? 301, right? So what is 302 and which are the others? heh

[KSA]

Mike,

The one you want is a 301, because its a permanent redirect. A 302 redirect is a temporary redirect, so the SEs think you've got the site once at the location you were forwarded from and once at the location you were forwarded to, so it thinks you have 2 of the same site.

That's why link exchanges that do a 302 redirect rather than just a link to your site are bad.

Maybe a real techy can give a better explanation, but I just remember that 301 is the good one!!

:D

[Real Estate Forum]

but I just remember that 301 is the good one!!

:D
OK, that is all the info I will need to remember ;)

Thanks :)

(Whenever I ask ppl, they go into tangeants without ever getting to the point hehe)

[Real Estate Forum]

And since we're at it, can someone post a 301 redirect code in here which I can use on some of my moved pages to make them redirect to http://www.sitetutor.us ?

Thanks.

[NashuaWebDesign]

I don't know if it makes a difference in all this... but I host on a Macintosh server... so maybe that does something different? In any event, I've been doing this for about 6 years on dozens of sites with hundreds and hundreds of domain names with no problem. And most of my sites rank quite high. So it definitely does not work negatively.

[Real Estate Forum]

Out of all people Mella on digitalpoint just answered it here (http://forums.digitalpoint.com/showthread.php?p=265640#post265640) :rolleyes:

Anyhow, it would be
<?php
header("HTTP/1.0 301 Moved Permanently");
header("Location: http://http://www.sitetutor.us");
?> replace sitetutor.us of course with your own url (for anyone who has a need to use this code :) )

[Real Estate Forum]

Edit, she got the url wrong:
This is it:
<?php
header("HTTP/1.0 301 Moved Permanently");
header("Location:http://www.sitetutor.us");
?>

[frobn]

To redirect all pages put this in your .htaccess file

redirect 301 / http://www.sitetutor.us

[Chief Tutor]

Ok,

So let me get this straight:

302 is temporary forwarding
301 is permanent forwarding

However, my question is this: If I have a website...then buy a domain www.samplenew.com (http://www.samplenew.com) at godaddy...and forward it to www.sampleold.com (http://www.sampleold.com), it is considered a 302 temporary redirect.

Where do I add a file at godaddy so that I get a 301? There is NO place to add any code. Do I need to add this code to the current domain located at www.sampleold.com (http://www.sampleold.com) ?

And if I have 10 or 20 domians forwarding to www.sampleold.com (http://www.sampleold.com), do I need to add code for every URL?

[KSA]

Sansei,

Rather than forwarding the domain name, can't you just change the DNS Server information to the server where your site is hosted?

Then, it's not any kind of a redirect.

Why do you have 10 or 20 domains pointing to the same site? :confused: Maybe someone else can tell you if I'm right, but I don't think that would hurt your main site, you just won't get any rankings on your other domain names.

If you want rankings on your 10 or 20 domain names, you'd have to buy a hosting account for each one so that you can put an .htaccess file to do the 301 redirect. Could get expensive.

Kathleen

[Chief Tutor]

You are correct. I am not trying to get any rankings with the other domains. I just want to keep them active and pointed to a real estate related website. In the future I will be using them for real estate purposes and my thought is that it will give me a head start once I use them. (just a theory)

Plus, I am lazy...this is easier then building a one page site for all the doamins.

[justicewhite]

Would it be possible for the moderators to put the first 2 posts in a sticky and move the rest to the Website development area please.

I think they're are very good posts and the 301, 302 redirect discussions are kinda diluting the value in this area.

[happy home]

thanks for post

[themedialion]

Redirects are basically blue smoke/mirrors ways to get one url to bring up another site.

To make a site officially be on the internet it needs to be in DNS.

What you need is the following:
1) a dedicated IP address for your website (several web site hosts use shared IP addresses, you have the same IP as other web sites on the same hosts and the hosting provider maps your traffic to your site via the web server. A shared IP address cannot be entered into another DNS server because the web server won't know how to map the traffic to it).

2) a DNS server to add your url and static IP to... Several web hosts will only allow the one DNS entry for your one URL. Some may offer a 2nd for free. Often you will need to pay extra for extra DNS entries. If so, you can use someone like zoneedit com to have up to 5 more free DNS entries in the world wide public dns (and additional ones are fairly inexpensive).

You simply punch in the domain and the dedicated IP address. It can take up to 24 hours for these changes to propagate thru the world wide dns servers.

This will allow your alternate URLs to all resolve to the same IP address and the search engines should see them as unique sites (this is a theory).

Kevin